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Thursday, 14 December 2017

Casting n gathering by seamus heaney some points

Casting and gathering
This poem is all about the experience of life but in heaneyz own way
A river is depicted in yhe poem , two banks represnts rightist and leftist
The title is quite significant in this poem
Casting ,throwing or sowing while gathering most probably represent the harvesting???
[12/14, 8:06 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: This poem pertain  two belief of progress  positive and negative  ideologies about life.main theme is contraries loss on one is the gain of other theses process of loss and gain essential for every one . Left and right both side people are engaged in their activities profoundly .. these poem show the activities of people on land and sea..
[12/14, 8:07 PM] Pu Naila Aun: Here again an anecdotal beginning of the poem
When v start to read the poem it appears as if a story is going to be told by the poet but it only consists of a single vers
[12/14, 8:09 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: Also depict the Irish history same In this poem..
[12/14, 8:10 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: But this one  poem is for all age I think
[12/14, 8:12 PM] Pu Naila Aun: Its acctually about the struggle of human beings from the very beginning of the life so thats why years and years ago is
Being said by the poet
And the voice was always there some in favour while others against
Its all about the two extremes
One side says a thing while other differs
People always had queries about the systems
[12/14, 8:12 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: In very last of the poem he told the process of loss and gain ..this process constantly continue uptill the day of judgment..
[12/14, 8:12 PM] Pu Naila Aun: Yup
It is its all about the social jugement
[12/14, 8:14 PM] Pu Naila Aun: The workers kept on working while the sounds the voices ,either revolutionary or Protestant always prevailed
[12/14, 8:18 PM] Pu Naila Aun: On left bank people r busy in sowing on the other hand machines r harvesting obviously the machines can not work on their own , the human hands would be the operators but and in the river nets r being droped and noise r being raised by whom? By the believers of two diffrent ideologies
[12/14, 8:24 PM] Pu Naila Aun: Yup
When i was reeading the poem and was trying to explain the symbols used by poet it reminded me an english movie
The movie is about a laureate "the beautiful mind"
In that movie the hero of the movie was used to decode the ciphers
So when i was reading i felt that me too decoding the words of poet to assess what he acctually wished to say
When v explain a work of a poet v try our level best to decode his words but v can never achiev the real meanings or the state of the mind of a poet about a poem compossed by him
[12/14, 8:25 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: Richating activity show the human being new invention like modren man they are busy to building a huge building and invent new machinery by their hands..
[12/14, 8:30 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: Yes when we have ability to decode the writer words we can make our explanation best.
[12/14, 8:32 PM] Pu Naila Aun: Comimg back to the topic
In 3rd quatrain poet stats about his plight that he is neither fully awake nor dreamy but now is come of age and has gaind sort of a maturity and have seen both the sides  closly, each side is busy in his work yet they r giving voice to their views one side says an individual can not play any role in the society( who probably followed to the philosophical views Rousseau who voiced to the individual freedom, the captilists)
While the other group saying that u r every thing  like Hegel'z philosophy absolute authority of society ,,, socialist z
[12/14, 8:37 PM] Pu Naila Aun: But here heaney presents his own point of view that both r right in their views and then he gives an example of farming
Where one sows ,other reaps but the sole object of both is to grow grains for whom? Of course humans so the main purpose of both is to grow for the betterment of humans so how any of them can be assessed of  doing wrong
[12/14, 8:38 PM] Pu Amaya Noor: Yes right know about Rousseau philosophy man is social animal can't survive individualy in society can explain hegal philosophy ..
[12/14, 8:38 PM] Pu Naila Aun: Ots all about to walk between two extrems and at the diffrence of opinion should not judge any one as a wrong doer
While he is presenting his ideas, his point of views

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